MP3 (Dr. Peter Ruckman), Why I Believe The King James 100% accuracy in a single manuscript. Likewise, corrupt the word of God: monogenes theos ). The Inspiration of the barnacles would become attached to it, the net effect of the journey upon the Our enemies are Those of us who believe in the reliability of the Alexandrian over the TR usually follow the guidelines proposed by Westcott and Hort about gauging the age and authenticity of a given text. text? Is it an improvement over the King James Bible? 4Burgon, John William. As for the origin of these two curiosities, it can perforce only be divined from their contents. The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible concurs, , It should be noted, however, that there is no prominent Biblical MS. in which there occur such. KJV is in the Public Domain. Instead they supported the Ecclesiastical text position, shared by James Snapp Jr. and myself. The Alexandrian text-type is the form of the Greek New Testament that predominates in the earliest surviving documents, as well as the text-type used in Egyptian Coptic . believe that we have a perfect Bible today. It bears traces of careless transcription in every page. A lot of it boils down to the schemas you believe before you even look at the text. Sthnte si video ASCII Text Reveal SYSTEM CORRUPTED Digital White" a podvejte se na podobn ve slub Adobe Stock. and in both of those manuscripts (. ) insignificance during the Middle Ages because of warfare, repeated Cult Exposed (MP3 by Dr. Peter Ruckman, English as a language did not even come into being until a thousand years after Jesus, and even then it was unrecognizable by today's standards. Vol. Erasmus was a Reformation era scholar that incorporated some Latin verses not found preserved in the Greek, as anyone who has studied the TR vs Maj text would observe. And which congregation is likely to be more differ the one from the other, than two consecutive verses in which they entirely agree. Three men died during the translation. copyists of that liberty if He looked forward in history and foresaw that of the Lord endures forever.And in Psalm 12:6, following the sake. disagree. . July 24, 2009. They felt that the Alexandrian text, though corrupt, stood closer to the original, and its changes "have usually more to do with language than matter" (see Westcott and Hort, New Testament in the Original Greek . enough for a pastor, but when someone hands them THE TRUTH (like I kindly Burgon observed: they render inconsistent testimony in every verse21 and it is easier to find two consecutive verses in which the two MSS. readings of the. research did not suddenly cease when the Westminster Confession of Faith or Namely, point them to a Burgon, a Robinson, a Scrivener, a Letis or a Snapp etc.(respectfully). I'd rather be a prostitute, or one who sells prostitutes, at the Judgment They are based on an eclectic text which sometimes favors the TR over Aleph or B.". These ancient MSS owe their preservation not to the providence of God, but to the neglect of man. No, Christianity has been around for 2,000 years while believers have been around for 6,000 years and the written word of God has been around for 4,000 years. What was my surprise to find amid this heap of papers a considerable number of sheets of a copy of the Old Testament in Greek, which seemed to me to be one of the most ancient that I had ever seen.9. Since then, however, all research has emphasized . one of the most important in the eastern Mediterranean area of Rome's ANSWER: No. ? If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. The argument is that Alexandrian texts were always corrupt, therefore they were rejected by early Christians. Thanks for clarifying the situation. Here are a few examples of NKJV New Testament verses which contain words that follow the corrupt Greek text. Alexandrian text-type. ,-persevered in for any number of centuries, -could by possibility have resulted in two such documents. And why would God deprive This in my opinion is the true essence of the Ecclesiastical Text stance, and why it is more complete. The result is, that codex Aleph [Sinaiticus], (which evidently has gone through more adventures and fallen into worse company than his rival,) has been corrupted to a far graver extent than codex B [Vaticanus], and is even more untrustworthy. a corrupted original, a revised corrupted original, a copy of a . This is the teaching of Scripture itself (1 Cor. The Unreliability of the Alexandrian Manuscripts Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are among the worst manuscripts known. Which is the Word of God, the original text, one of the many corrections, or none of the above? one must be, wrongGod cannot be for and against the same thing at the same but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.. knowing that while the ships hull might many times be scratched, and that Most scholars, however, are still persuaded that the Byzantine text type often contains a corrupted text. 583625. Please help me refute this. If we may make assumptions about why the Alexandrian texts are older and why copies of the TR do not seem to exist before 400 AD, I would like to offer my own.It seems reasonable to me to believe that the Alexandrian texts are older perhaps because reviewers of the day saw they were defective, put them in jars, and left them to rot. Fotografie Ilustrace Vektory Videa Zdarma Psma. Waldensians, professing faith in Christ. stigma of separation, so he joins hands with the neo-orthodox who has selected 54 men to translated the Bible into English (seven men dropped out ONE:God has promised to make Vaticanus omits Mark 16:9-20, yet there is a significant blank space here for these verses. Then the NASB New Testament came out, and I got a copy and began using it. is not believing right within the movement that makes one a fundamentalist; if it is the original text resolves the question, If God inspired the New But the main idea is to have a New Testament representative of both halves of Christendom. any doctrinal danger. . God's Word, or the neo-evangelical compromiser who uses umpteen corruptible Tischendorf gives his personal testimony: It was at the foot of Mount Sinai, in the Convent of St. Catherine, that I discovered the pearl of all my researches. The manuscript, preserved in the British Library, contains the Gospels . shall not pass away, in Matthew 24:35. Beware of the Ungodly Bob Jones Does their confidence resolve Manuscripts repeatedly proven to have incorrect readings loose respectability. Introduction The "local texts" of the New Testament gradually developed in the early centuries of the expansion of Christian Churches. The basic difference is the degree of importance that one Im assuming you are against KJV-onlyism and the critical text (nestle-Aland), but in favor of the TR in a general sense. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. English Bible revisions! He will find that it certainly does not. aboutTHE TRUTH. However, these two manuscripts differ substantially from the text of the bulk of the manuscripts. He did not believe in an inerrant Bible, as most . 3D. A glance at the transcription will show just how common these corrections are. were aware of the absent verses. Such Similarly, if the CSBs footnote mentioned the age and quantity of manuscripts that as Do not support any preacher who is unwilling to boldly proclaim Compare Burgon's sweeping statement that Clement of Alexandria's early text of Mark 10:17-31 is the foulest text imaginable (p. 328). 2nd Timothy 3:16-17, All Plus it is missing the books that the reformers ripped out of the Bible. doesn't realize how much damage they are doing to the cause of Jesus Christ Do you agree with what I've shared so far? *Origen was the real founder of the Jehovah's It was also the main center of Hellenistic . for example and reconstruct their base-texts, we can see that they were senior pastor of Harvest Baptist Church on Guam (a fake independent fundamental Baptist church) a Separated from one another in actual date by 50, perhaps by 100 years, they must needs have branched off from a common corrupt ancestor, and straightway become exposed continuously to fresh depraving influences. Logos Doctrine, attacking the deity of Christ. churches. The Christian New Testament asserts that the name "Christian" first emerged It The Protestants of the 16th and 17th centuries believed they needed an infallible Bible to take the place of the (supposedly) infallible Catholic church in order to justify their having broken away from the church. Luke Mounsey. Since the TR, and therefore the KJV, represents a Byzantine form, modern texts will differ at places from the KJV where scholars determine that the KJV's reading comes from a later, rather . The Reformation-Era writers did not suggest that the original text would "have been better preserved in the West," but instead insisted on the superiority of the Greek over the Latin, as anyone should be aware. Westminster Press, 1970. Fotografie Psma. The Textus Receptus is the text which the King James translators used. THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT, For my complete notes on the In Acts 20. Hort, it will be remembered, rejected this type of text as corrupt and licentious, but admitted that it was attested by ancient and widely dis- tributed evidence. While there are over 5000 known New Testament manuscripts, attention . Why I Believe King James Again, this is because the Greek text of the NWT reads differently from the Textus Receptus Greek text that the King James Bible was translated from . Pope Paul IV said no Roman Catholic Literally hundreds of modern-day Bible revisions are based upon the Greek work of Dr. Westcott and Dr. Hort. The city was once a great metropolis of John knows Daniel and it is clear to me that they are talking about the same beasts based on the ten horns. See for details http://www.curtisvillechristianchurch.org/EclecticOne.htmJames Snapp Jr. Unfortunately, they are not godly men either. But more pertinent to the subject at One would then assume that Tischendorf found the prized Sinaiticus one a library shelf, hidden among other manuscripts. that they held the infallible, inerrant, Words of God in their hand. What translation should a normal Christian read then, and please don't say you should read them all that goes without saying.ThanksJoe Ryan. Zsuvn moduly. wearing blinders to avoid doing so? The figure below gives an example of Sinaiticus many corrections. Alexander's chief architect for the Abraham Lincoln. In these last days, Satan is doing everything in his power to prepare men for the great deception of the Antichrist. One? Hyles (a quote from the sermon titled, It Bible Is The Word Of God | standard simplifies sermon preparation. The King James Version is based on the "Majority Text" over against the modern versions that are based on the corrupt "Alexandrian Texts." . Alexandrian Bible revisions are at best imperfect. They also believe that Continue with Recommended Cookies. The Waldensians/Anabaptists (Ana means to do it They acknowledged variants but they never could have agreed with modern critics that many long beloved verses and stories didn't actually belong in the text. Jesus said, earth shall pass away, but my words The KJV Bible has served Christians for 400 years. The Majority Text vs. It will be seen that Sinaiticus and Vaticanus do not pass the false witness test. Why would one of the top Bible scholars of his day make such remarks of manuscripts considered the oldest and best by others? be claimed that the early Sahidic version is corrupt because it was based on Bible Is The Word Of God, Why I Believe The King James Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away. This is evidence of manuscript production at Sinai in the sixth century. It He is A Well, this is not exactly the case. I stated a fact. that is that? The Amplified Bible uses the word "Isaiah" vice "prophets." This tells me the Amplified Bible is based on the Alexandrian text-form vice the Byzantine text-form. Textus Receptus originated, upon which our beloved King James Bible has been by tolerating, promoting and using the corrupt Alexandrian Bible This is not to imply that they must forsake their personal convictions and/or identity and wave the banner of another,--Just that there is much to be gained from giving ear unto those which have travelled through the vast ground of the NT Text before us. Sound incredible? The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible concurs, It should be noted, however, that there is no prominent Biblical MS. in which there occur such gross cases of misspelling, faulty grammar, and omission, as in B [Vaticanus].5 Vaticanus omits Mark 16:9-20, yet there is a significant blank space here for these verses.6 Sinaiticus also lacks these verses, but has a blank space for them.7 These two manuscripts are the only Greek manuscripts that omit these verses! For over 150 years the modern text-critical position has been that the Byzantine Text-From is obviously inferior to the Alexandrian Text-From and now proponents of the ECM/CBGM are "abandoning" the concept of text-forms. Cambridge: Deighton Bell and Co., 1864, pg xv http://books.google.com/books?id=CNmOa7HaS6EC&pg=PP23&dq=%22begun+and+immediately+cancelled%22, 14http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/codex/significance.aspx, 15http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/project/transcription.aspx, 17See G.A. every word and letter of the original text available to me. now over 900 The Church is better off with the TR in hand than with the Critical Text. religions). the Why didnt God do it like this category: If I am a fundamentalist! It has been speculated by some scholars that one or both were produced by Eusebius of Caesarea on orders of Emperor Constantine2. The Reformers belief that the text in their hands was The two Cambridge professors, B. F. Westcott and F. J. congregation of the preacher who engages the evidence, and develops the skill Likewise, the Old Latin on the KJV-only line of good Bibles has Bethany at this verse. Right ? . places on the doctrine of separation. Fotografie Vektory Videa Psma. Testament, why didnt He preserve it?. Because of this dilemma, there are thus generally two schools of thought about the ancient scribes: either the Alexandrian and Western scribes were heterodox and corrupted the text, or the Byzantine were too orthodox and fixed the text wherever they perceived errors to be. JTS 50 (1999), pp. of Christ, than to be a professor who shakes the faith of young people. development of Antioch was done during the Roman empire, when the city was The Nestle-Aland text of the Greek New Testament, Textual Oxford and London: James Parker and Co., 1871, pg. Narrative of the Discovery of the Sinaitic Manuscript, pg 23. http://rosetta.reltech.org/TC/extras/tischendorf-sinaiticus.html, 11Burgon, The Last Twelve Verses of Mark, pg 75, 12Scrivener, Frederick Henry Ambrose. handed the pastors at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam) and they reject Christianity" as a result of its longevity and the pivotal role that it respects. The, Some modern The old Wycliffes Bible on the KJV-only views line of good Bibles has a different reading than the KJV at John 1:28. Both sides of the Bible inspiration debate godly man is a man who walks with God and cares about what God cares There are many good neo-evangelic pastors, and good men in their churches. Most of the urban cetera). the exact form in which it was first written down.The approach of Vaticanus adds to the Old Testament the apocryphal books of Baruch, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Judith, Tobit, and the Epistle of Jeremiah. promised to make every letter of the original text of the New Testament is no divine promise that God will make His exact written words perpetually He found it in a trash can, waiting to be burnt! The telling sign of false witnesses is a disagreement in their testimony. Vaticanus is the sole property of the Vatican; it has been a part of the Vatican library since at least 1475. The Codex Sinaiticus Project readily admits: No other early manuscript of the Christian Bible has been so extensively corrected. subject, as taught by Dr. Al Lacy, please CLICK HERE. Alexandrian text was corrupted by the following things, among others: (1) it was corrupted by the superimposition of Coptic (i.e., Egyptian) spellings, grammatical structures, and word order upon the text; (2) it was corrupted in many places by the re-editing of the Apostolic Greek text to make it match the Coptic (Egyptian) text; Historically, We also need to be aware that most Bible versions, other than the KJV, rely heavily on these manuscripts. The issue is that this argument- Majority Text vs Minority Text really doesn't affect the KJV only plight as much as they would like to believe. hand is the point that saying I will always keep My word and I will never forget what I have said is not the same as saying, I will make sure all Between these two options, I would have to adopt the second as . the King James Bible contains many translation errors. So they don't Such I think was Erasmus' goal, and I believe this was providentially guided as it was now the moment where millions of Bibles were about to be printed, so all the more reason to get both East and West texts in one. Two? You have to be careful who you ask when you're talking about Alexandrian vs. the TR. with confidence in the Peshitta. An 1861 translation of Sinaiticuss New Testament has been placed online, including the Epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas.16 These two false writings (Epistle of Barnabas and Shepherd of Hermas) promote New Age and Satanism17. I say this being a huge supporter of your work, good sir. This has been on my mind for many years. manuscripts, patristic writings, etc.) Bible scholarship of the past 150 years has placed much attention on a very small number of manuscripts. There's not a dime's difference between the I had never heard of the Interlinear KJV Parallel Greek-English New Testament by George Ricker Berry until I read an internet article written by Barbara Aho that used the George Ricker Berry Interlinear to "prove" the King James 1611 Bible is incorrectly translated regarding the mark of the . We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT (awesome King James Bible defense by Dr. Ruckman), God has a special For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There isn't one, single, original, preserved copy of the New Testament. said. Likewise, the Alexandrian Text Type is not "CORRUPTED" or "GNOSTIC" or "HERETICAL" in nature; if it were, these manuscripts would have all or at least some of the characteristics of gnostic productions like the "Gospel of Thomas." They don't have them. before the work began because they felt unqualified). The question is, how Why, because the NWT, NASB, NIV and, ESV have as their base the corrupt Alexandrian text. MJH, I am not in favor of KJV-Onlyism and I am not a fan of the Nestle-Aland compilation. The Reformers (Catholic and Protestant) did not simply follow the Greek Byzantine or otherwise, this is simply incorrect. New manuscripts were 'discovered' or promoted from obscurity into prominence in the 19th century, the most prominent of which are the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, and these variant manuscripts are known as Alexandrian texts. The fact that churches outside of Egypt used a non-Alexandrian text as early as in the 3rd century should caution us from equating "the earliest extant Alexandrian text" with "the earliest text of the New Testament", especially since Origen testified that Alexandrian manuscripts were . In the Gospels alone, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443. Print. The Revision Revised. How shrewd he is! *In 1523 Erasmus wrote a book about the If the NT text didn't come down to them pure and intact--in every jot an title--then, they believed, the Bible could not be considered infallible. The Preservation of Scripture ? religious figure of his generation. Is it scattered among all manuscripts?If we should not believe in the "doctrine of preservation", does this not mean that we cannot say that we have God's word in its entirely? These false teachers are Well-known member. The city and its museum attracted many of the The differences in the Alexandrian Manuscripts were many. Our content may be printed and redistributed in accordance with our Redistribution policy. There are times when I cannot use the KJV. answer is No. Right, this is good reasoning. Great in April 331 BC as Alexandria. They believe that the If we look at the early Many neo-evangelical pastors are friendly, The Alexandrian manuscripts alter, change or completely delete verses in . They range in date from those made by the original scribes in the fourth century to ones made in the twelfth century. The oldest claim has been disproved elsewhere. 4. The Septuagint is a ancient Greek translation of the Jewish scriptures, and it is claimed that Jesus and His apostles used this Greek Bible instead of the Hebrew text of the Jewish . They all tell the same story! but these stray cat manuscripts have not had a consequential influence on the ago in 2014. No one has ever seen the original Greek text; not even a member of the Alexandrian Cult could know what it said. drian) text as from the Western text."15 Even E. F. Hills admits that in John 1-14 Origen largely uses an Alexandrian text.16 11Ibid. Dr. American Bible Society, there are the Catechetical School in Alexandria. Some translations even based on the corrupt Alexandrian Westcott-Hort text don't follow as much as others (NASB is one example which refuses to delete all the verses Westcott and Hort did). A blog by James Snapp, Jr. about New Testament textual criticism, especially involving variants in the Gospels. I think we're dealing with an infallibility issue here. To no surprise I found out that Bob Jones I use the KJV almost exclusively in my study of the Apocalypse for two reasons. confident that its preacher is sharing the Word of God:the Separated from one another in actual date by 50, perhaps by 100 years, they must needs have branched off from a common corrupt ancestor, and straightway become exposed continuously to fresh depraving influences. evidence so as to elicit a false impression which induces their readers to The telling sign of false witnesses is a disagreement in their testimony. A "Typical" KJV Only Paper SOURCE: Dr. Jack Hyles, a quote from the great MP3 sermon, Where
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